Uh-oh, this current news just goes to show you how the world situation can affect everyone, be they Norwegian or Loganese. But of course I recognize the Loganeze as superior in relations to other citizens. LOL Well, a couple days ago I told how all of the Norwegian citizens had been made millionaires because of newly aquired oil interests and stuff. Well. it seems the Yemenise have taken exception to this and kicked allah the Norwegians out of Yemen. Now I have been to Yemen, in fact, to Aden when it was BCC (British Crown Colony) and before any major oil discoveries there. I played softball there, really. But, since we were not allowed to drink beer while playing softball in 110 plus degree temperature, and since we could not even get a glimpse of a local ladies ankle, I assure you that I would not have my feelings hurt had they kicked us out at the time. But, I guess allah the Norwegians are poor again, just like the rest of us.
Another concern with the Devon set up with their seperators and metering, is that they are immediately sending the water down the pipeline. Now why is that? Normally there is a two phase seperator at the well pads the gas goes out the top and the liquid (oil and gas) is flowed into the designated atmospheric tanks. (Tanks designated to each well.) The water and oil is allowed to set and seperate in the atmospheric tanks where the water is transferred to the designated water tanks and trucked out. Devon is immediately taking the water directly from the seperators, and pumping down their pipeline to a gathering facility. Now as I stated previously these are small seperators and three phase seperators. The oil goes out the middle dump, the water out the bottom dump and the gas out the top. The problem is that these seperators are about 4’ in diameter, and taking in hundreds bbls of oil, hundreds if not thousands bbls of water, and hundreds of thousands of cubic ft. of gas. As I stated previously I believe these seperators are not big enough to let the oil and gas separate, and water is going through the oil meter and oil is going through the water meter. Now if they are pumping immediately all the water off the seperator and there are no designated tanks to let the water and oil separate as in a normal production well pad, then what happens to that oil that is mixed up with the water? Guess what. Devon separates the oil at their gathering facility and sells it ROYALTY FREE, (my guess.) I will try to do some investigative work here and verify with Devon that they are not paying royalties on their oil skimmed from their water tanks, and how could they? The more I look into this the more I am convinced that this set up is designed to rip off the royalty owners in a big way. I believe that Devon has done this specifically to rip us poor old farmers off. WE NEED TO GET AN ATTORNEY FOR THE GROUP. We need to get Devon to address these issues. The amount of oil going out with the water I would guess to be very significant. It is in any normal operation.
Robert,
This makes me mad, I was hoping that Devon would be one of the good companies. They purchases some of my leases from Limestone. Guess their is no good oil companies anymore. I know some even cheats the investors and that is why I won’t be putting money down the hole anymore. guess the foreigner will do that. I would think you could get several people from the Mulhall/Orlando area to help you protest this. Sounds like Devon could be skinning the top for millions barrels per year with as many wells that they have. Have you talked with OCC attorney’s? What do they say. I think it’s time we get all the Association like NARO, OMOA, etc together and see if they really are helping the mineral owners like they lead us to believe. I would love to go to one good meeting that tells it like it really is on multi-unit and metering. I still can’t believe that OCC would look the other way with M. McMorries problems, sounds like the lateral are way too close.
Robert, The Society of Petroleum Engineers publishes journal papers on field tested oil production meters, so you might contact them and see if they have a journal paper you could use to support your argument. For example, here is a journal paper published by the SPE that quote: “On the basis of the favorable test results obtained, this approach was subsequently accepted by the State of North Dakota and other royalty owners.”
http://www.onepetro.org/mslib/servlet/onepetropreview?id=00015394
Virginia, Mason told me he contacts a third party lessor instead of leasing to the O/G companies, because the companies will not give him 1/4 royalty and the third party lessors will and he recommended I do the same. When I said NARO needed to raise mineral owner awareness he told me he is just an old farm boy who doesn’t have a lot of time away from his day job. I’m still working with the OCC attorney who has been very good at replying to my emails, so maybe I can get OCC to help me with my offset problem, but I am not getting the feeling it is going to be easy.
Does anyone know if OK has a website like this State Impact Texas website?
http://stateimpact.npr.org/texas/tag/oil-production-in-texas/
“StateImpact Texas is a collaboration of local public radio stations KUT Austin and KUHF Houston. Reporters travel the state to report on how energy and environmental issues affect you.”
I do believe I have to take Devon’s side in this whole thing, and one of the major reasons I do so is because throughout what I read, I see the word “normally…” which implies to me to be synonomous with “…it used to be,” or “…how we always did it before,…” but it is not going to be that way ever again. Everything is new, and there will always be people who are just not ready, willing or able to give up old patterns, beliefs, or ways of doing things. But we simply must move on, and try different and new ways, because it is always the new that brings better ways and more production and output in the long run. Carting crude off to market, for example, using 20 mule team borax wagons, simply went out when Ronald Reagan was fired from the GE Theatre, and he simply let it go and decided to run for political office. He failed miserably, but did he give up on the new? Of course not, he was a visionary and tried again and was elected goveror of California, and so decided to run for President, but again, failed miserably, but did he give up? No. He found a new way of doing things and served 2 very successful terms as President. This simply must also happen in Logan County, or we will all be getting 9 dollar or 11 dollar royalty checks twice a year. I do not want that, I would rather they cap every well in Oklahoma than to receive an 11 dollar check. Lets go with the new, the old has absolutely nothing useful or even interesting for us.
An interesting thing going on, looking like Devon, on 4 wells, one flowing at about 80 BBD, anothe flowing at 336 BBD, another pumping at 178 BBD and yet another pumping at 857 BBD. I did not really believe many, if any at all, to even be just flowing in Oklahoma. Not since the Wild Mary blew her stack back in 1939 I think it was. And she flowed over 20,000 BBD every day for about 6 weeks I think it was, and news anchors from New York City even came out to do reports on what was going on. Could it happen again? You bet. Our blow out prevention technology is so old that something is bound to happen, and I would guess sooner vs later. The oil production business is always fulla great surprise every now and then.
Those wells are in Payne, not Logan county.
Please someone look at Osage Exploration new presentation posted today on their web site. Explain to me the distinction on Page 14 between Osage Operated, Slawson Operated and Osage non-operated [the yellow] sections. Some of these yellow ones were drilled by Stephens, most were drilled by Slawson. Slawsonis listed on the Tax Commission web site as the Operator of mine for sure and I think for all the sections that they drilled. Question in my mind is Who is the Operator of these “Osage Non-operated” sections? More important I suppose is “Why should I care”?
Ann, 9-15N 3W is not listed on the oktax site yet with production. Pretty new well. Takes a while to get actual production listed. Some counties are about three months, others are six months. First production was Sep 20, 2013.
Test results are 130 bbls oil, 192 mcf gas 980 bbls water from Woodford.
If someone has a working interest, they could tell you if they aren’t held by a confidentiality agreement. Otherwise, you have to wait for the public data.
I will agree with Todd, I never got much help from OCC field people, wasn’t until I said I was suing that they even would talk with the oil company. It was like they were paid off.
Robert, Please let us know as most of us probably are dealing with Devon.
HAS ANY MINERAL RIGHTS OWNER IN BRANSON 26-17N-4W RECEIVED A CHECK? PRODUCTION STARTED 5/31/13. IF ANOTHER WELL IS DRILLED ON THIS LEASE CAN THEY WAIT TO PAY AFTER 2ND WELL IS PRODUCING.
I am meeting with the corporation commission at my location. I will update the group on his comments observations.
Yes please do post results of conversation with OCC I am leased to Devon as well, with a well in the woodford that’s bottom hole is in my minerals am very curious to know what they have to say. It my opinion the OCC are lap dogs to the oil companies.
Just another feeble thought about the Devon issue. I once was associated with a sage IT Project Manager who from to time to time reminded me when I wanted to buck the system of what it is like to “pee up a rope”. I considered the guy one of my mentors during my years at Shell Oil.
did anyone heard recently,is there any activity on 15-19N-2W?
Ann, If you are referring to Cornforth 15-3-9 1HM, there is nothing posted yet. The well shows as active in September, 2013. The last posted production results on the Tax Commission Gross Production System is August 2013. If you want to track yourself, go to this web site:
https://www4.oktax.onenet.net/GrossProduction/PublicSearchPUNbyLega…
Robert, I’ll help you in any way possible. I’ve got a call into a friend who checks meters in OK. Right now, Devon is trespassing on Miss Lime minerals in one of my sections and OCC knowingly allowed this trespass when Devon ran a lateral to close to my section. Devon is clearly in violation of OOC rules, but OCC says they don’t have to enforce trespass rules, because if I don’t like the trespass they give me the right to drill my own well when I can get Devon to give up operational control of my section. Thanks OCC!
Thank you M Barnes.i would like to know from where do i get info about this? i checked Occ web site but didnt understand.