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Are all sections 40 acres? Then any Township/Range would be 40x36 acres?

Each township has 36 sections and each section has 640 acres. The description reads right to left. So NE4 gets you down to the NE 1/4 quarter or 160 acres. The N/2 is the north half of the 160 etc. etc.

That description you gave gets down to 40 acres as Ron detailed and that would be the spacing for that well back when your father signed the lease. Do you know what the net mineral acres were on the lease he signed? Does anyone in your family also have 1.5385 nmi. Meaning is that your 1/2 or 1/3 of what your father left?

Thanks Micheal. That’s good to know. Would that be 8 wells being drilled by one Co?

Ron, do you think it would be reasonable for me to assume that those other people are my relatives? Distant ones, of course but I know that long ago our great-grandfather+4 of his sons went to Garvin Cnty from TX. Many descendants are still in Lindsay, engaged in the leasing of minerals. Our Grandfather was one of the brood that stayed in TX but I have to think this is why he came to own mineral rights in OK. Isn’t there a place where they list all the owners in a particular tract?

My Great Grandparents on my Grandmother’s side lived on 40 acres on 1-3n-5w. They had seven kids who all had kids, who had kids. That cuts it up fast.

So, on another document, referring to section 21 4N 4W in Garvin Cnty, the “spacing” [correct?] description is very long and the sentence ends with “containing 150.00 acres, more or less”-does that mean his part is 150 acres? How does that compute?

Pam**,** what type of document did this language come from. Is it a mineral deed, warrenty deed or mineral lease? Or other?

That means description is of a 150 acre track .Your interest could be less but in will be under that tract.

I have a copy of a lease our Dad did on Sec. 07-2N-3W [thank you, Rick!] which gives N/2 N/2 NE4 as further discription. What does that mean?

Also, it says it contains 40 acres. The offer we’ve gotten from Energy Lease talks about 1.5385 net mineral acres. Does this mean they are only interested in a small portion?

Pam The 1.5385 is the interest you have under the 40 acre tract.

That is what I mean.

Richard, that’s amazing. A lot of leases to get signed!

Lynden, this is a puzzling document to me, It refers to my dad as the Grantor, Cianna Resources as the Grantee & Instrument type is Convey. It looks to me like he sold these mineral rights but for 1 year, with further conditions on it remaining in place.

Ron, that is what I was thinking, all the spacing I have seen (which admittedly isn’t much) was 40, 80, 160 etc. and Pam has the 150 acres more or less language. Do you think this means she has 150 mineral acres in sec 21? That is what i was trying to ferret out.

Lynden, I seriously doubt it & Rick thinks it may be due to a “correction” section. This legal description is very long-the longer the smaller?

Pam, Most likely the original deed from way back when, could have been generations, someone owned 150 acres. As it’s been passed down the pieces have become smaller but the description is still going to refer to the original 150 acres. Example: my grandmother originally owned 120 acres but she left it to her grandchildren and we all got an equal portion but the deed still says 120 acres more or less. Chances are what the landman told you is correct. It can be verified by doing a title search at the county clerks office or paying someone to do it for you. In my case I knew what I had and what my siblings and cousins had so it was pretty easy to figure out how it all added up to 120 acres. Rick Howell, a forum member knows a lot about this I’m sure he can correct or improve on what I have said. The size of the drilling units are a different subject which we can go into further if you would like to.

It should mean you have 1.5385 acres under the 40 acre tract. It is under the north 1/2 of the north1/2 of the north east 1/4 of 7-2n-4w which is 40 acres.

Ron, thanks for that clear answer, now I understand.

Pam, The units can vary in size depending on the type and number of wells planned. A typical horizonal well is drilled in a 640 acre unit and recently the state approved 1280 acre units. You get paid a proportionate amount of royalties no matter where in the unit your acreage is located. In some of the really hot spots they are drilling up to 8 wells in one unit.

Lynden, I see what you’re saying. That lease doesn’t specify the nmi but the lease we are being offered now does and it applies to the whole description, I’m sure. After all, they are talking about what my father owned himself. Not how it would be divided now-is that what you are asking?

So, on another document, referring to section 21 4N 4W in Garvin Cnty, the “spacing” [correct?] description is very long and the sentence ends with “containing 150.00 acres, more or less”-does that mean his part is 150 acres? How does that compute?

And back to the original question-please forgive my ignorance!-if that piece is 40 acres, why do they talk about leasing “1.5385 net acres”?

FYI Pamala we have a producing 160 acre tact in South Okla.City that there were 250 seperate entries on a divison order and that was 1990. My sister and i had ten acres to split and that was one of the larger tracts on that unit. Rick check out the section sizes in texas, they must have alot curvature of the earth down there.