Lease terms and bonus from Ring Energy

Hi,

New to the forum. Recently received an offer from Ring Energy on 2 sections in Andrews County, Blk A26 -18 & 19, where I'm representing family ownership of 65% of mineral rights. Initial offer of $200/acre & 1/5 royalty (upped to $250 & 22.5%) seems pretty low as we negotiated leases last year between 475-500/acre & 1/4 royalty, 2 sections E (w/ SandRidge) and ~8 sections to the SW (Limestone), also out of the main field.

While Sect. 19 has never been drilled, and 18 has 4 plugged wells, it seems they have a chance to secure most (65%) of the rights in a single action. The landman complained of ~60 other owners of the remaining rights, and there is a reason these sections haven't been drilled.

Questions:

Does this seem low to others as well?

Since our deal would give them 65%, (840 acres of the 1280) do they really need the others as couldn't they drill with more than half the rights leased?

And if thats true, arent' they required to pay the others an average of what they pay those they have leased with?

Wouldn't that make their incentive to lowball our deal greater than all of the others?

Finally, the landman said, unlike our lease from Sand Energy last year, who he said "has left Andrews County for Oklahoma and won't drill, Ring can't afford unreal offers in this marginal area but really will drill and make us some money".

Any thoughts and insight appreciated.

MC

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Hi Skyline,

I would like to visit with you privately, as it seems we have a lot in common. First in response to your questions:

1. Does the offer seem low. Indeed it does. First, I don't know anyone in Texas, NM or Louisiana who's accepting less than a 25% royalty these days. The bonus seems low compared to what Sandridge negotiated last year. In my own circumstance, about 6 miles SE from you in PSL Block A33, Sandridge started out a $300/25% for a 3 year + 2 yr option and six months later, when I was ready to sign, we were at $650/25% for 3 years + 2 yr option . . . Then Sandridge announced their plan to divest from the Permian Basin, and nothing was consummated. Now, if Ring is only interested in 3 years and no option, then that would be a valid reason to accept a lesser bonus.

2. I'm not aware of a requirement to have 50% of the minerals leased in order to drill. From a practical sense, an operator is going to want 90%-95% leased, because the unleased portion becomes like a carried working interest, once the working interest owners have recouped their initial investment. I don't think any responsible operator is going to drill with only 65% leased -- it would be financially too risky.

3. The unleased mineral owners would receive significantly more than the leased mineral owners, once the operator recoups their drilling and completion costs. For example, after pay-out has been acheived, a party that owns 10% of the minerals and is unleased, would receive 10% of the total well revenue. This is compared to another 10% mineral interest owner who is leased, with a 25% royalty. The latter would receive 2.5% of the value of the production (i.e., 10% of minerals times 25% royalty = 2.5% of 8/8ths).

4. So that in and of its self is not the incentive to lowball. Lowballing is simply the result of trying to make a smart business decision. Companies, particularly risk taking companies, like new oil and gas concerns, try to acquire leaseholds at the lowest cost -- both in terms of bonus and royalty. The bonus is about carefully conserving cash on the front-end; and minimizing the royalty improves the bottomline, if the property produces. In addition, by keeping the royalty sub-normal, it gives the lessee an opportunity to carve-out overriding royalties, either to key employees, or if the lease is ever assigned to another company, there's room to retain an overridge.

5. I agree with the Landman that Sandridge has left Andrews for Oklahoma (and Kansas). I don't know if Ring can afford to pay the going price for leases in Andrews, but you have another option -- Sheridan, in Houston, the company that acquired Sandridge' Permian Basin assets. Also, Forge Energy was interested in my minerals in A-33 at the same time as Sandridge. So that's someone else you may try. I do like Ring, because of the experience of their team in this area, when they were previously with Arena.

6. Also, your your part of A-26 is largely un-drilled and un proven. However, this is not unlike University Lands Blocks 13 and 14, just north of Shafter Lake (to the south of you). I've attached a screen shot from the Texas RRC, showing this area. Sandridge and Forge have been permitting and drilling new wells in this previously barren area.

I hope this helps, and as I said, I would like to visit off line, if that's possible. I'll send you a friend request, which is necessary in order to have direct contact.

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Very low.

Wade, what terms have you recently experienced in Andrews (or other Permian counties) for bonus and royalty %?

Plugged wells are potentially re-enterable by drillers, which could substantially reduce drilling costs and time - so, keep that in mind. Plus, if the company already has geologic data from the plugged wells - then they are ahead of the curve compared to other areas generally speaking.

Donald, Location, location, well you know what I mean. Except for tiny parcels, generally 25% and $1000-2500/acre.

Wade,

Are the figures you stated, 25% and $1000 - $2500 applicable to areas west of the proven fields in Andrews County. I have about 300 acres in Block A-47, Sections 9, 10, 22, and 23. Offers are coming in initially at $150/acre and 3/16 and I have worked it up to $400/acre and 22.5% (one for $300/acre and 25%).

Wade Caldwell said:

Donald,
Location, location, well you know what I mean. Except for tiny parcels, generally 25% and $1000-2500/acre.

George,
No. The farther you get outside proven areas the lower it will be, unless it is a recently announced new play where there are no proven areas. I have not checked the locations you list above.