Thanks for posting these listings of permits, Arnold. Very helpful.
Thanks Stephanie P, that is a great explanation of the process. And that explains something that I observed in Ritchie where somebody used a Doddridge attorney to transfer ownership from father to son. Father also had property in Doddridge. He filed an Affidavit of heirship in Ritchie, but there, if father left a will that needs to be filed. If not, a different format needs to be followed. Ritchie said anything sold with the Doddridge version of ownership transfer would not work in Ritchie. They would not transfer ownership. Lesson: each county is different, and get the right info like Stephanie P. did.
Anna, are you meaning transfer the mineral rights during the lifetime of the owner, or after the owner passes?
Anna, sounds like you are getting good advice here from Stephanie P and Arnold, for the one with the will. For the other, I guess Antero has experience with these things, so that Quit Claim deed might be how they prefer it.
In terms of the hiring, I was told that they just added (2) more division order specialists to handle the backlog. Stephanie…that’s some great advice from Nancy. My stuff has been correct to date, but I have had cousins whose division order decimals were wrong and had to be amended, so do check it when it comes in. You might also inquire as to whether you could be owed interest.
My emails includes my interest and that of one of my cousins. I emailed the contact information to a third, unrelated owner last night. I have another cousin who still owns, but I don’t know that he has documentation and he is cantankerous at best. In my original email, I asked for the 3% after 6 months (I believe that is what I have seen on here?) EXCO did a terrible job but so did my Mom. It won’t happen again under my watch. =)
100% will be interesting. I am curious to see what else comes to surface from the deck since the owner I contacted didn’t even know there were wells included in the rights until i contacted her a week or so ago?
Stephanie, Sounds like you have your hands full with this puzzle! Wow! Also, my lease and some others have a clause that states Antero must pay royalties no later than 6 months from date of first sales. However, it does not include a remedy. Antero chose that 3% figure arbitrarily. My cousin inquired about the interest (after I told her) and was told they were only paying interest for wells that have or willed be drilled in 2015. And then her sister was told she had forfeited her interest because they got her signed DO back too late! I told her to call BS on all of that! I think she is still waiting to hear back from them.
I think we need to crown Nancy Mosely as The Queen:)
The database is actually my problem. It shows documents signed by the 5 heirs including my Mom on this piece of property. However, that may not mean anything–the fracking company may have just been covering their bases by sending information to everyone to sign.
The Executrix of the will swears that this property is my mother’s alone, but I’m not sure.
Your Mom probably owns a share. For example. My GGgrandfather split his shares 7 ways for 7 children. So, ultimately our tax tickets say 5/42 of 100 acres.
Thanks Stephanie. I have had to find out a few things the hard way, and have been lucky that people have given me good ideas and helpful hints. You are certainly finding out some things the hard way! I am learning from your experiences. We all help each other out as we can.
Hi Stephanie P, from what you shared from good ol’ Antero, it sounds like EXCO maybe was not the greatest with paperwork, and Antero has had to do some work with the information they received. The “ownership report” might be a title opinion or at least the outline of it. The “revenue deck” is probably the database thing where they sort out the various royalty and working interest parties with their percentages for each well. They need to see that it all totals up to 100%. If something isn’t correct they need to sort it out. From what we have been reading on these pages, they are understaffed in departments such as that. So this isn’t surprising. Maddening but not surprising. They should pay all that is owed since they took over.
At least that is how I read it.
It should be interesting when you get the division order to see if it seems correct from your information.
Jacqueline,
I have been working on this mineral interest since last July. I learn something new every day. I won’t give up because I know there aren’t too many folks that have something that belonged to their GGGgrandfather (He bought the land in 1835). I talk with my 10 year old about this stuff. Now that i have it finally in my name, I am going to change my will to reflect the mineral rights so that I can ENSURE that they are changed over into my son’s name. I don’t care if it is $5 or $50,000, it isn’t for sale because it can never be replaced. =)
Thanks to all the folks on this forum for the support you give. Nancy Mosley is an angel for helping me so much! I couldn’t have gotten this far without her knowledge of how things work. =)
Chas, you should start with what your tax ticket says. Calling the assessors office. The number one thing you to make sure to do is that you or the executor RECEIVE the tax bill. Make sure that any changes you make to the rights are sent certified return receipt requested to the courthouse. THEN follow up on it to make SURE it was done. It sounds a little over kill, but I learned this the very expensive hard way.
http://129.71.205.241/ Check the records they currently have on file for your family member
I’d start by searching the the database. If you find nothing there, you can call and have them do a by name search for you.
Beth Rodgers (County Clerk) office 304-873-2796
304-873-1261, I think is the number you can call and have them pull up the tax ticket.
I also have 304-873-2631 in my phone. Personally, I just call and ask my question, then they tell me who can answer. There are only a handful of people who work in the courthouse and they all know each other. All will be helpful on the phone. =)
Meaning each person has a tax ticket that reflects that.
Chas, I am not home now but this evening I can look things up in a subscription database of property and tax records. If I can send you a friend request from my phone I’ll to it but if you want to send me things less publicly, like that map and parcel number and/or names I might be able to help sort it out. There are several avenues to this and I expect you need to do everything haha which includes sort through that Doddridge database and probably make those calls that Stephanie P. has suggested. Worth the time but could take a lot of time.
Can someone please interpret this Chinese from Antero?? I found out this well has not paid royalties since 2005. Antero acquired it in 2013. I love being a mineral rights owner…
We have received the ownership report. When we acquired these wells in 2013 from EXCO, an ownership report had not been executed. Unfortunately this process takes time. I will build the revenue deck and send out division orders to the respective owners per the ownership report. The reason I’m not asking for W9’s is because I acquire SSN’s from signed division orders. I do apologize for the length of time this has taken, however, royalty checks will issued for this well at the end of June.
P.S. I called them for the first time in early November. I emailed her fired up on Friday with EVERYTHING to prove that my shares belong to me and my cousin’s belong to her.